No Free Pass For Illegal Immigrants
James Blackwell - Thu 10:28 AM 02/02/2012
A proposal has been introduced to Kansas legislators by business groups and the Kansas Chamber of Commerce which calls for undocumented immigrants to be able to remain in Kansas and hold jobs legally. This bill would allow illegal immigrant who have managed to circumvent our legal system for five years and only received one misdemeanor conviction, to legally obtain jobs in the agricultural, roofing and construction. The entities who introduced this legislation claim to represent business and promote growth in the Kansas job market, are now promoting programs that will put legal Kansans out of work, and lower wages of other Kansas workers. The proposal also states that employers would be able to pay a fee for using these illegal workers. This fee would be paid to the state.
As a business owner in the construction field and a member of Salina Chamber of Commerce, this legislation is bothersome to me. Not only do companies who hire legal Kansan workers have to deal with high tax rates and over regulation by local and state agencies but must potentially pay taxes to fund a government agency to track workers whom are in our country illegally. Is it not bad enough that the illegal immigration issue is not dealt with in any way that makes a difference? Is it not bad enough that companies who hire legal workers have to pay a higher rate than the competition who hires illegal immigrants? In today's economy would our legislators not be better serving us if they concentrated on protecting Kansas Jobs for Kansas workers?
Time and time again companies that hire illegal immigrants succeed while their competitors fail due to the high cost of good legal employees. Many times these companies hire illegal immigrants for low wages and work them long hours. The illegal immigrants do not complain for fear of losing their jobs. Here are the simple facts. Many illegal immigrants will have to live on low income and is forced to live in homes that should have been condemned. The illegal immigrant is stuck in a life that very seldom gets better. All the while the so called employer is taking advantage of the low wages and hard work that comes along with hiring illegal Immigrants. Illegal immigrants very seldom make any community ties and generally do not participate in the education of their children at public schools. This is not to say they are bad parents simply that fear of getting caught prevents them from being involved.
In the construction trade it is not uncommon for builders or roofing contractors to hire illegal immigrants to complete projects. This is not due to a shortage of qualified workers, it is due to the fact they do not want to pay the wages expected by good American workers. Homeowners often take this route as well, hiring illegal immigrants or contractors who use illegal immigrants to complete projects. While this may save some money on the specific project. These people should be aware of the money cost in taxpayer dollars. For example: Illegal immigrants who have children in the school district pay no taxes into the system to support the education of their children. This means a legal taxpayer must pick up the tab by paying higher taxes and mill levy. To make matter worse, the schools are required to enroll many of the children of illegal immigrants into special programs such as English as a Second Language courses. These courses require additional funding. These needed resources are taken from the children of legal Americans.
Programs similar as this one have been tried in the past, they have generally failed. This is largely due to the fact that these individuals know they are breaking the law and fear that if they register they will be deported. However if passed this legislation will cost taxpayers money to administer. It will be touted as a success by creative statistics and political advocates.
Does Kansas really need to have more illegal Immigrants competing for the jobs of Kansans? Is the Kansas Chamber of Commerce really that out of touch with what Kansans want? Wouldn't it be more logical to actually enforce laws regarding illegal immigrants than to allow them to violate our law and be given a free pass? Kansas does not need to spend more money to allow some employers to abuse employees. The companies that support these laws so that they can get cheaper labor at under fair market value, must realize they are hurting the Kansas worker by keeping pay rates low.
Kansas Legislators should instead be implementing legislation that allows the companies and entities that hire illegal immigrants to be fined on a large scale. This would protect Kansas workers and would increase state coffers by receipt of fines. And it may even help get people off of unemployment by making jobs available to legal American workers.

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Logical
Thursday 2 February 2012 12:07 Report this comment
As I have pointed out elsewhere on this website: if you have the same position on this issue as Ronald Reagan, you will be called a liberal.
youLose
Thursday 2 February 2012 12:58 Report this comment
You are not very bright, James, are you? You are a member of the Chamber of Commerce, yet you are for higher fines on business. You're against fewer regulations, yet you call for more in this article. You're for level playing field for YOUR business, but not for your countries citizens. You hate inflation, but are for higher food prices. If you are getting your ARSE kicked out there in the private sector, why don't you get back on the government tit like the good old days?
jblackwell
Thursday 2 February 2012 14:45 Report this comment
Logical: I havent called anyone a liberal, I may disagree with you on some issues and may agree with you on others. youlose: I am a member of the Salina Chamber of Commerce and yes I would like to see fines for those companies who are violating the current law. ( http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16665&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1007). I am for few regulations, although I would like to see more enforcement of the existing law. Inflation is relative, it has been on the rise for the past ten years, all the while illegal immigration has been at its highest. Apparently illegal immigration does not stave off inflation. Although it does create tax burden. And thank you for reading... I understand there may be differing viewpoints however why does one always revert to bad mouthing and name calling instead of having an intelligent conversation on this site?
hacimo
Thursday 2 February 2012 20:01 Report this comment
I have several comments which I will list separately; First to Logical : Reagan agreed to a an amnesty as a ONE TIME SPECIAL DEAL. This was part of a compromise in which the democrats agreed to absolutely enforce the immigration law so that we would never again have a problem with illegal aliens. Needless to say the republicans do not intend to make the same mistake twice. Democrats have shown themselves to be a bunch of lying weasels and this time we will demand complete and utter enforcement down to the last letter of the law.
hacimo
Thursday 2 February 2012 20:17 Report this comment
Second to YouLose : Competition between companies in a free market takes place within the context of the law. For labor laws, this starts with the requirement of no slavery. A worker has to be allowed the freedom to quit his job at any time if he doesn't like it. Employers also have to pay a minimum wage and pay overtime for work past an 8 hour day. They also allow workers a weekend off and national holidays. In addition to such requirements it is the law that employers can only hire workers who are legally certified to reside within the united states. These are the rules. Employers who break the labor laws must suffer the legal penalties. In the case of using illegal workers, the penalty for a first offense is a fine of $2000 per worker and six months in prison. James is simply asking that all employers in Kansas should also play by the other work rules that the state and federal government have specified.
dethrone
Thursday 2 February 2012 22:11 Report this comment
To make a long story short, no he isnt very bright.
stirthepot
Friday 3 February 2012 03:17 Report this comment
James I agree it is a no win situation when you have to compete against the companies that hire illegals. They can under bid you because they probably do not pay overtime. I have seen roofers in my neighborhood working their gangs 12+ hours in the summer and the bid on the job was really low. Youlose you are the loser because your post does not make sense to me. James is not calling for a level playing field for just him. I think he wants a level field for everyone who is here legally. WF
sirsyko
Friday 3 February 2012 13:01 Report this comment
@hacimo--One correction. Employers do NOT have to pay overtime after 8 hours a day. Some do, but they do not have to. What is required is overtime after 40 hours in one week.
ShadowCipher
Friday 3 February 2012 17:17 Report this comment
Kansas Chamber of Commerce is out of touch. Honestly, I feel the same way about Salina's. Kansas' has shown it's cards and now everybody knows all they care about is keeping businesses in Kansas at any cost WITHOUT any regard to the citizens of Kansas and quality of life. In my opinion, Mr. Blackwell, you will see the reason Salina is slow to grow, and wages remain low, is because of Salina's chamber. Don't take me ragging on Salina's as ragging on you, but I think, with time, you will recognize that our Chamber how choked Salina down for big business that has already established here and threatens to move out if competitors come in. It just sets up our society for failure... This greater issue of letting illegals working here just is the front page news to something that can fill up a newspaper.
ShadowCipher
Friday 3 February 2012 17:18 Report this comment
Excuse the typo.
youLose
Monday 6 February 2012 11:19 Report this comment
No name calling, James. You just aren't very smart. You struggle with cognitive dissonance like so many other t-baggers. You can't keep your story straight long enough to have an "intelligent conversation".
jblackwell
Tuesday 7 February 2012 18:25 Report this comment
youLose: Yous say: No name calling, James. You just aren't very smart. You struggle with cognitive dissonance like so many other t-baggers. Seems to me your the one tat cant have a cognative train of thought. I mean in this small comment you say "No name calling" then you call me a t-bagger. Im not sure what a t-bagger is, I have never been to a t-party rally if that is what you are refering to. Thanks for your input, Im sure someone out there found some value to it. Again thanks for reading...Next time try to write something that is productive to the conversation it may make it more interesting to disagree with you...
CC0709
Thursday 9 February 2012 16:50 Report this comment
I agree with this article 100%. It all makes perfect sense. And I'm tired of footing the bill for all of these illegals. They have their babies here and so their babies are now "citizens", and SRS previously did not check citizenship SO that meant they could get food stamps and all other sort of aid - which YOU and I pay for. Also their kids are going to school - and like James said, they need programs that need special funding - AGAIN paid by us. It's just not right - or fair.
MrCork
Tuesday 14 February 2012 05:54 Report this comment
What part of illegal do they not get? Why don't we pass a law letting illegals hold public office, but at a reduced rate of pay, or better yet why don't re take away the legislator's pay?