Area Communities Banning Fireworks
KSAL Staff - Sat 09:05 AM 06/30/2012
Fireworks are still legal in Salina and Saline County
The hot, dry, conditions are prompting numerous area communities to ban fireworks.
Joining the list Friday were Lincoln, Russell, and Hays. They join over a dozen other area communities that have deemed the discharge of fireworks to be too dangerous because of the dry conditions.
In Salina, and Saline County, the sale and discharge of fireworks have not been banned.
In Saline County, fireworks are currently on sale, and can be discharged, through July 5th. They can only be discharged on private property, with the property-owners permission, between the hours of 8 AM and midnight.
In the city of Salina, fireworks are on sale through July 4th. They can only be discharged in the city on July 3rd and July 4th between 8 AM and 11 PM. Fireworks may be discharged on personal property only.
Local law enforcement is going to be vigorously enforcing fireworks violations, and will have a zero-tolerance policy.
Area fireworks bans:
* City of Ellsworth
* Unincorporated Ellsworth County
* City of Lincoln
* Unincorporated Lincoln County
* Beverly
* Barnard
* Sylvan Grove
* City of Russell
* Unincorporated Russell County
* Lucas
* Luray
* Dorrance
* Bunker Hill
* Paradise
* City of Hays
* Unincorporated Ellis County
* City of Victoria
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BONEMAN
Saturday 30 June 2012 09:44 Report this comment
Im getting damn tired this bs and crap... Salina and Saline Couty officals are not thinking straight. All they are worried about is (OMG!!) we can not mess up our traditional sky fire that would make us look bad. Oh last year the city looked so awesome seeing all those pretty and beautiful colors in the sky.. I bet the officals already have the trailer loads of fireworks sitting at there houses. They spent so much money on themselves them don't want to ban anything because then they wasted money. I don't give a damn. If our entire town get burned up somebody needs to loose there job.. I hope Kathleen Sabilous or Sam Brown will do the firing and wipe out all the officals making the decisions..
BONEMAN
Saturday 30 June 2012 09:46 Report this comment
Oh... T-Bone if you comment on this.. I don't give a damn what the heck you say.. Your full of bs and crap.. Go somewhere else and spread your annoying talk.. We here don't care for it...
BONEMAN
Saturday 30 June 2012 10:11 Report this comment
heres some news of what our officals are saying: http://www.salina.com/news/story/ban-or-no-ban-62912
euLoGY
Saturday 30 June 2012 10:30 Report this comment
It was dryer last year then it was this year and we had minimal problems. Stop being such a bunch of grouches and recluses and trying to take away everybody's fun. Just jealous because you're all introverts and have nobody to celebrate with, so you want to take everybody's fun away.
t-bone
Saturday 30 June 2012 11:21 Report this comment
oh bonemang i'm just funnin' ya. just addin' a little seasoning to the stew. don't get your panties in a twist. these firefighters here sometimes are working two or three fires at a time. i hope these idiots bangmang is refering to sleep good at night when someones dream goes up in smoke.
Salinamomma
Saturday 30 June 2012 11:40 Report this comment
This is the same speech that was screamed last year. Let it go!
troy
Saturday 30 June 2012 11:44 Report this comment
The ban will take effect on Tuesday between 3:00 and 4:00, then the ticket writing can begin. Would not be surprised to find out the SPD is preemptively coordinating a saturation patrol running from 4:00 on Tuesday through noon or so on Thursday. That's my guess. This would allow the city to get as much "bang" for their buck, pardon the pun. Collect tax on the sales of fireworks, then collect the fines for the illegal discharge of those fireworks. It's a win / win for the city.
Iamgonnagetu
Saturday 30 June 2012 12:09 Report this comment
First thing that needs to occur is Joe Koch needs to resign his position or be terminated. The more I read of his comments and position on this the more I realize he definately is the wrong person for the job. The people who comment about doing nothing need to grow up and realize all the dangers of fireworks not just fire. Then again these are the same people who over spend on buying fireworks and then cannot pay their bills.
ksfarmdude
Saturday 30 June 2012 16:47 Report this comment
I feel sorry for the folks that want a festive 4th of july I wished the weather was different and more suitable for fireworks I hope everyone that is in a nonban area enjoys them and takes precautions to make sure theres no problems hope everyone has a safe and happy 4th
Chatter11
Saturday 30 June 2012 17:00 Report this comment
Now is not the time to bicker back and forth. Common sense should tell everyone not to discharge fireworks. The city, county, etc. shouldn't have to BAN it - use your heads. For the city to ban - way to late after purchases is assinine---no need for tickets - no need for this crap------people, city officials should just use their heads. The 4th is there for a reason----Independence Day---not a time for Stupidity/tickets/whatever. The city of Salina has a reputation for being money grubbing for stupid reasons/don't give them the opportunity to turn this holiday into another one of those. Use your heads/be safe/a and remember the reason for the holiday.
DrPepper
Saturday 30 June 2012 17:37 Report this comment
Why dont all of you fine banning folks come on out to Ellsworth tonight and watch the great fireworks show go off.As for Mr.Koch i think that you guys do a good job for what your job demands of you.
Iamgonnagetu
Saturday 30 June 2012 17:39 Report this comment
Chatter11 in the ideal world your post would mean something but we do not. People drive drunk commit crimes and do so many other things that responsible people would not do. There are a bunch of them out there that could care less if they burned your house down 5 minutes from now so your post makes no sense in the world we now live in.
Iamgonnagetu
Saturday 30 June 2012 17:43 Report this comment
Drpepper what good is fireworks before July 4th? June 30 is not the holiday. As for Koch why don't you Ellsworth folks offer him a job.
BONEMAN
Saturday 30 June 2012 17:51 Report this comment
Wait a minute.. Ellsworth has a burn ban on.. Something is fishy here.. Even though they ban for everyone else in Ellsworth.. The county can still go ahead and shoot up there event.. hmmmm...
DrPepper
Saturday 30 June 2012 18:16 Report this comment
For one if i watch them tonight, then i dont have to go to skyfire.Plus i can sleep in on sunday morning.Oh and by the way i dont live in ellsworth county i live in saline county.I belive joe does a good job for what he has to do.Cant please everybody!!!!
THEENFORCER
Saturday 30 June 2012 19:29 Report this comment
drpepper sounds like either you are joe or are friends. In your eyes he may be great in the rest of our eyes he should be looking at the interests of us taxpayers and land owners who know how dry it is. Fire is a big thing for many of us and yes there are responsible people but there are also responsible people that may be drinking or taking drugs and do things they might not ordiary do. I have said this before I like fireworks but when the conditions are like this they should not be selling them at all so anyone has them in their possesson. There are to many of us out here that could lost everything because of one person or a group out to have fun. Even the outlawed fireworks are showing up which is even a bigger concern. I like many feel if those we have in charge wish to ignor the dangers for 11 business's there is something wrong. I also have read Koch's comments an I am embrassed he is in the position he has.
DrPepper
Saturday 30 June 2012 23:28 Report this comment
No enfoforcer i hate to burst your bubble but im not joe nor a friend.If you were so worried about your property maybe you should be out there taking the approriate step to insure you investment is safe,Instead of trying to be somebody important on here.I could care less if they banned them or not.I also beleive that there has only been two fires started by fireworks,the others have been start by some other source.
bigdogg
Sunday 1 July 2012 01:09 Report this comment
Has any one heard of insurance! If your that worried about losing your house or your crops so on so forth then protect your investment properly! Also like the fire cheif said that even if a ban is in place it is highly unlikely that it would stop any illegal use fireworks they are already selling them. The people that want them have them already and they will find places to shoot them off. GET OVER IT!!! ITS THE 4th OF JULY!!!
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 07:06 Report this comment
After what I heard on the scanner last night, Salina/Saline county BETTER be doing the same thing!!! I tried to give the benefit of the doubt but, last night, ALL night, our EMS/FIRE/POLICE were all over town and in the County putting out fires and treating injuries!! Some were very bad!!! It's obvious we cannot trust people to use common sense and police themselves. Get a ban in place soon before more damage and destruction to innocent people occur!! I for one will be filing a lawsuit against the Salina/Saline lawmakers if I should sustain any damage to myself or my property. The weather conditions are not "firework friendly" right now, it's too dry/hot/windy.
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 07:14 Report this comment
bigdogg: I DO have insurance, however, who shall I send the bills to for any damage not covered, for instance the deductible?? Also, why should the insurance companies be paying out huge losses for stupidity by people, the cost of these losses paid out are passed down to the consumers. If my house catches on fire because of fireworks, shall I count on you, and any others that are not in favor of the ban, to replace my pictures of family members, my things that I worked so hard for, stuff I have that were family heirloom items that can NEVER be replaced?? Yes, it is the 4th of July, although not for a few days yet, Noone is supposed to shooting off fireworks yet, as I said, we cannot trust people to use common sense, very sad indeed there are so many people that insist on ruining the fun for so many others that are playing by the rules!! But, that's the way it usually works in many situations, there are ALWAYS SOME that do not abide by the laws and thus manage to destroy what others are looking forward to.
Iamgonnagetu
Sunday 1 July 2012 07:45 Report this comment
Granny you hit the nail on the head. BIGDOG is the type of person we worry about one with no common sense. Who cares attitude with well they got insurance so that takes care of everything, far from being true.
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 08:53 Report this comment
Oh, and to KSAL, I am anxious to see how much publicity the destruction and mayhem in Salina last night receive!! Or, will you not bother to print these stories for fear they may be forced to ban the fireworks?! Too the ones that are in charge of putting a ban in place, I hope you are paying close attention to the activity last night, we have some very tired fire fighters, law enforcement people and volunteers this morning that helped on these calls last night!! Wonder how many ended up being treated at the hospital? I will thank them all in advance for working so hard to keep our community safe last night. Iamgonnagetu: I too am tired of the "who cares" attitude by people, noone seems to care about anything or anyone except their own personal self satisfaction.
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 08:58 Report this comment
DrPepper: Perhaps you could put your address on here, being you could careless, I would be happy to send some kids over to your neighborhood to fire off some bottle rockets and roman candles by your home. Insurance is important, I do not wish to battle with the insurance company because of others stupidity!!!
Iamgonnagetu
Sunday 1 July 2012 11:26 Report this comment
Joe Koch Joe Koch where were you last night? Why were you not out on all the calls? You seem to know it all. Time for you to resign.
DrPepper
Sunday 1 July 2012 12:05 Report this comment
Hey granny send them out and i teach them responsibility.IM out in the county.If you old people could of taught your kids responsibility we wouldnt be in this mess.So I HOPE YOU HAVE A GRAET 4th OF JULY!!! Keep up the GOOD work JOE!
THEENFORCER
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:23 Report this comment
drpepper why don't you have a 7up and chill out so you can really understand what people are saying here. As for your buddy Joe Koch he needs to be more hands on and with his dropping the ball on this I for one cannot trust him if severe weather comes our way. He will probably take the wait and lets see stance with that also and we simply cannot have someone in his position doing these things. I get the feeling that you live deep in the county west of Salina so you feel that you are out of danger but no one is out of danger. 10 2 4
THEENFORCER
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:26 Report this comment
bigpuppie get over it??? Tell you what you probably have insurance also so why not do a test and burn you out so you can truly understand how tragic something like that could be. After all sport its 4th of July.
BONEMAN
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:40 Report this comment
You know I have to say all this rant and rave over fireworks was all my fault.. I made the first comment back on 27th and now look what it has turned into.. We are all a loving family on these forums.. Lets remember what granny always says.. Let be pro-active and work together to make a safe 4th.. Maybe god will bring us a unexpected rain at the last minute..
t-bone
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:45 Report this comment
pop! pop! bang! bang! pop! BOOM! snap crackle pop! happy 4th of july bangmang you old grouch
troy
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:47 Report this comment
Counting down to the big ban! Still figuring on late Tuesday afternoon. Monday at the earliest. The city needs to see as much tax revenue from fireworks sales as possible yet get the ban in place early enough to see even more revenue from the issue of tickets. If the ban were to go into affect before Monday we could go elsewhere to purchase and discharge fireworks thus costing the city of Salina vast amounts of revenue. This is all about money, not safety.
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 13:59 Report this comment
How much money do you really think the city makes off of this? LoL... the money goes to the vendors, the county, the state, the town... it's not that much.
troy
Sunday 1 July 2012 14:20 Report this comment
It's tax revenue. Might not be that much, but it's a good start. Can't write tickets if no fireworks are sold. So, gotta sell as many fireworks as possible for as long as possible. Then ban them. Then start writing tickets. They are calculating exactly when to begin the ban in order to maximize the cash potential. Not too hard to figure out.
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 14:20 Report this comment
DrPepper: I did raise my kids to be responsible, which is why they are not shooting fireworks up in the air right now!! They are obeying the law, they also did not purchase any that you shoot into the air, nothing that will perhaps land on someones house/sheds/cars etc... all ground stuff and nothing dangerous. Us "old people" DID in fact raise our children to be responsible, it's the ones with your attitude that make the good ones look bad. As for Joe, there's no question he is feeling pressure right now, does he do the responsible, safe thing, or, keep generating that revenue for the city, A bit of advice Joe, always error on the side of caution by doing what would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to keep people and property safe!! Hey KSAL, still waiting on those updated stories, where's all the information about the many fires last night??!! Oh, DrPepper, maybe an oversight, you forgot to put your address on here so we can all come shoot fireworks over your house all night!!
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 14:35 Report this comment
If that was the case troy.. then why aren't other cities like hays, and such following suit? I highly doubt that. They're already legal in woodbine, chapman, enterprise today - to shoot off. No problems yet. Been listening to scanner all day. Maybe because nobody has to run into the country to light them off and people are being smart around residential areas? How about that?
troy
Sunday 1 July 2012 14:47 Report this comment
euLoGY, Come on! The city council in Hays is nothing like ours here in Salina. The city council in Hays actually listens to the people of Hays and acts accordingly. Ours does not.
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 15:03 Report this comment
So everybody east of Salina doesn't listen to "the people". It's just as dry there too. It's a choice that's made according to how they are. If he wasn't fit for the job, he would not of been voted in. "The people" are the one who voted for him to be in office. It's obviously what you wanted. I am with Koch. Let him do his job. Trust me... KSALLINK doesn not represent the voice of 55,000 people in Salina.
getumgranny
Sunday 1 July 2012 15:22 Report this comment
I would like to point out, 4th of July can be celebrated many ways other than shooting off fireworks, placing innocent people and their property in harms way. When the framers signed our Declaration of Independence, I'm pretty sure they were not thinking, "Boy, I sure hope people go out and spend oodles of money on fireworks to shoot up in the air every year for 236 years". As I said, if people could be trusted to use common sense, this would not be a problem, but, a very large number of people over the last few days have proven they cannot be left to their own devices, they need to be told right/wrong. To the idiots that cannot seem to follow the law on this, I certainly hope the courts will be handing down some very expensive fines to teach these people a lesson.
BONEMAN
Sunday 1 July 2012 16:01 Report this comment
Come-on-now eulogy get-a-life or getumgranny theinforceer is gonna-get-u!!
DrPepper
Sunday 1 July 2012 18:15 Report this comment
Well im done wasting my time on this subject.Nothing like beating a dead horse.
Iamgonnagetu
Sunday 1 July 2012 21:42 Report this comment
Eulogy Koch was not voted in. Were did you come up with that? Meal may not be the voice of 50,000 people but it gives a good pulse on where people are at on different topics. Just do not understand why you want to support someone who does not care about peoples lives or property. He cares more about 11 fireworks stands ripping people off. Do you realize that there is a huge markup on fireworks? Why do you think there are so many opening stands?
Iamgonnagetu
Sunday 1 July 2012 21:44 Report this comment
Drpepper goodbye and farewell. Granny must have hit a nerve.
DrPepper
Sunday 1 July 2012 21:54 Report this comment
No she didnt hit a nerve.I just have better things to do then set behind my computer and talk Crap.Ill let you city folks keep talking it up,why i set back and laugh at it.
THEENFORCER
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:10 Report this comment
you got that right boneman where's that wimp t-bone at or is he to busy setting fireworks off in the country and burning things up.
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:14 Report this comment
That's what everybodies gonna end up doing if they ban them in the city. It'd remain more contained in the city.. but doubt anything would happen... it's still green in town vs wheat stuble in the country.... Think about it. Why not let people light fireworks in the city where there is faster access to water (JUST IN CASE) vs banning and forcing them all out in the county setting off wild fires that can burn acres in a matter of minutes. People will light them off regardless.. might as well let them stay home and do it where the chances are less.
THEENFORCER
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:18 Report this comment
On a serious note drpepper your bs is what we been laughing at. The better things you should be doing is protecting your property so you don't get burned out by some fireworks. Because if you do get burned out you will have no computer to sit behind and laugh. By the way I am not a city folk and this is why I have such strong feelings against what is going on here. I can see the real danger and how many people's lives can be disrupted. GRANNY is right and you know it but are to stupid to admit it. Glad to see you go.
THEENFORCER
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:23 Report this comment
eulogy do you live in a hole? People will go outside the city limits to use their fireworks. we are talking about people who are stupid enought to spent their money on these outrageous prices they charge to purchase these things. The markup is so great that these stands make a killing plus they all price fix so there are no real bargains. Maybe you should address where all these people with fireworks left over after july 4th are going to go and fire them off? It sure is not going to be inside the city limits.
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:54 Report this comment
I really don't care about bargains/markups - that's irrelevant to this conversation... let alone this article. That's not what this is about. You basically admitted you don't buy fireworks because of the markup... you certainly wouldn't be calling yourself stupid would you? So regardless... with your line of thinking... is you want them banned 100% every year... because all of the stand operators light their left overs out in the country. That's not going to happen. And I did state in my prior comment that people would go light them in the country. Who says these people live in Salina anyways.. or even Saline county for that matter. You're just a grouch that wants to take people's fireworks away... and you don't care because it doesn't affect you because you don't buy them anyway... Boohoo! Usually the people that are dangerous with fireworks are the one's who don't respect the law... which will probably be the one's to "cause problems" with or without a ban
euLoGY
Sunday 1 July 2012 22:55 Report this comment
And a ban won't keep them from going out in the country.. once that stand opened up it was too late to keep these people from having "left overs" and firing them off into the county.
getumgranny
Monday 2 July 2012 07:36 Report this comment
To KSAL: Sure would like to see the story on how many fire's they were called out on this past weekend!! And, it would be interesting to know, how many injuries were treated due to firework mishandling. I know there was quite a few calls, a neighbor of mine called in about people shooting them off and the dispatch told her, they were sorry, they did not know how long it would be before they could come out because they were MUCH too busy at this time to come out and see what was going on. She never heard another word from them.
WhoCares
Monday 2 July 2012 08:28 Report this comment
DrPepper....what do you know about beating a dead horse? Are you into beastality with tbone?
THEENFORCER
Monday 2 July 2012 08:33 Report this comment
eulogy a grouch? And I admitted to what? Listen dumbo do not put words in my mouth I have purchased fireworks in the past even through they are a rip off but I did not spend my food budget doing it like you would do. Further I did not say the stand owners light what they have left out in the county so your reading skills are also bad. The stand owners return non sold fireworks to the companies they buy them from genius. You probably are one of those who would go out in the county to light what you have left after the 4th. It is people like you that need to suffer from mis-use of fireworks to appreciate what the rest of us are saying.
THEENFORCER
Monday 2 July 2012 08:37 Report this comment
GRANNY these pro fireworks people just do not get it. They only care about their personal gradification and not about the havic they could cost others. There is a time and place for everything and this year is not it. Hopefully we will get a good heavy rain before all heck breaks loose in the next few days.
bigdogg
Monday 2 July 2012 09:09 Report this comment
There is WAAAAY to many liberal jerks in this town!!! The ones who yell the loudest are always heard but they never seem to be the popular vote for some odd reason. I didnt get my way so im gonna yell, whine, and cry until I get what I want. Its very childish and until the quiet majority tell those loud cry baby liberals THEENFORCER, getumgranny, and Iamgonnagetu to SHUT THERE PIEHOLES they will continue to be the only voices heard!!!